![]() “It’s something that requires effort and engagement, but it’s a conversation that needs to be had. He believes that the only way men of a certain vintage will ever gain true gender empathy is by listening to women. ‘I did think that if anybody could speak their way through their own lack of male empathy, it would be Louis CK’ He hasn’t, not yet, and maybe not at all.” “I did think that if anybody could speak their way through their own lack of male empathy, it would be him. When CK was demoted from inspirational comedy auteur to just another privileged white male incapable of comprehending his crimes, Maron was surprised. ![]() But, he says, “I’m not really in touch with him any more that seems to have fallen away.” When the conversation turns, as it inevitably does, to the Time’s Up movement, it also returns to Louis CK. You get a release from the laughter, but underneath I’m sure people are thinking: Oh my God, is this how it all ends?” Marc Maron (Avalon) “We can talk about it in a way that is horrible, or in a way that is funny. “People are terrified about the state of the world right now,” he says. The more political uncertainty, the better it is for comedians. Will it be chaos and insanity when I get there? Should I be doing more research? I mean, what’s going on with all that? Do you even know?” “I only realised after I booked the shows that I was arriving the week Brexit was supposed to happen. Read more: Ricky Gervais: ‘I want to be left alone, sitting at home in my pants, drinking wine’ When I ask him whether he ever tailors his stand-up shows for UK audiences – his former friend Louis CK once complained that British audiences were notoriously difficult to please – he falters, and admits that, no, he hasn’t. He does it very well, but then he’s spent a lifetime preparing for it. ![]() He arrives in the UK this month for his latest tour in which he does what every midlife comic must: rail against modern life. He is now at a stage in his career where his stand-up shows don’t feature heckles so much as open reverence. I got myself into a medium that was pretty new, and my aim was always to be myself, to be okay with myself in them, and to share that as a viable thing.”Įither way they proved his springboard. “I think for once in my life my cosmic timing was on point. ![]() The US magazine Paste said of the episode: “There has never been a more intimate interview with any president, ever.” Marc Maron in ‘Glow’ (Netflix) Sir Ian McKellen tried to persuade him to appreciate Shakespeare (and succeeded), and with Obama, who was still president at the time of recording, they spoke about racism and African-American stereotypes. With Lena Dunham he talked criticism, with Robin Williams depression. He is a terrific and empathetic interviewer, and guests reveal far more to him than they would on the usual talk-show circuit. He credits their success to social media recommendations, but in truth Maron is very good at what he does. Read more: Louis CK hasn’t served his time, he’s had a sabbatical It’s basically an excuse to have a lot of wonderful conversations with a lot of fascinating people.” He recently recorded his 1000th episode, with Jane Fonda.ĭoes he ever tire of them? “Whenever I think I might not feel up to recording yet another interview, it always turns out to be something more great and engaging than I expected. He has now interviewed everyone from John Cleese to Steve Coogan to Barack Obama and in total his podcasts have been downloaded over 400 million times. Hosted in the garage behind his Los Angeles home, at first it was an excuse to chat to his fellow comics and generally kvetch about their private lives, but it grew in popularity and scope to become more far-reaching. But it’s for his podcast, WTF, that he really became celebrated. He then landed a role in the Netflix comedy drama, Glow. “Yes, I’m insecure, yes I have anger issues, but I’m also a pretty decent guy.” Marc Maron (Avalon) Despite everything, “Marc Maron” was likeable. Though he came across as irascible and grumpy, the man did live with cats, and was nice to them, proof enough, perhaps, that beneath the surface lurked a certain empathy. Like Louis CK’s Louis and Pamela Adlon’s glorious Better Things, Maron was a thinly disguised autobiography about a stand-up – called Marc Maron – stumbling through life’s myriad hurdles, and routinely venting his spleen upon anyone unlucky enough to stray into his path. The unexpected breakthrough came in 2013 when he landed his own TV show, Maron. ‘Yes, I’m insecure, yes I have anger issues, but I’m also a pretty decent guy’
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